Interview With Fred Stopsky, Creator of "Don Rumsfeld & Dick Cheney in Hell"

Fred Stopsky spent the final 50 years as a secondary college instructor and college instructor, educating over 12,000 academics. He's the co-author of "The American Expertise: The Historical past of america and Social Analysis in a International Society" and writer of practically a dozen different books, together with "Freedom and Management: Censorship in America." "George Bush on the Planet of Xul", "Nuremberg Rules and Worldwide Legislation", "Catholicism and Slavery" and "Bartolome de las Casas: Winner of Indian Rights". Fred additionally based the Veterans Accelerated City Studying for Lecturers program (VAULT) to assist veterans of the Vietnam Warfare proceed their training.

Tyler: Thanks for being with me at the moment, Fred. I've to say that you've got a title in your new e book. Would you first inform our readers slightly bit about how you'd classify the e book?

Fred: Thanks, Tyler, for having me. "Don Rumsfeld & Dick Cheney In Hell" is a political satire that mixes sardonic wit with severe engagement with key points going through America and the world. We reside in fascinating instances, so the political satire will need to have unsurpassed qualities. It's a e book on political and social points, however its humorous temper permits readers to smile and make them assume.

Tyler: What's the plot of the story?

Fred: Don Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney get up to seek out out they're in an anteroom in hell, with Ken Lay of Enron, whom the satan has informed him to arrange the method by which quite a lot of witnesses testify Whether or not the 2 males discover belong down there or approach up within the sky. Proof is supplied by folks from all sectors of the political spectrum in addition to unusual residents. The e book reveals how every particular person, whether or not or not she is known, is influenced by the antics of those two males and might bear witness to one thing. The fabric is mainly introduced in dialogue to facilitate studying. Every chapter permits a selected group of individuals to witness. In all instances, a number of views are displayed. The satan stays to the top when he begins chopping notes.

Tyler: I perceive that the satan is looking on a number of witnesses to make his choice. Most of those witnesses are well-known personalities, however not essentially politicians. How did you resolve which celebrities must be included?

Fred: Nice query. I needed to expound the views of conservatives like Ann Coulter or Tom de Lay as a result of their phrases alone are sufficient to accuse Rumsfeld and Cheney. I simply needed to enable Jon Stewart, Invoice Maher, Al Franken, Michael Moore, Jay Leno, and Howard Stern to do their reveals, as a result of in fashionable instances we're paying severe consideration to comedians and politicians to comics. Specifically, I felt compelled to permit this excellent younger man, Pat Tillman, to talk for himself and the relations of the deceased. I really like Kinky Friedman and am an admirer of Willie Nelson, so I simply needed to educate her. Blended with the well-known prisoners from Abu Ghraib and a few regular employees of the working class. After all, I even used a regulation and order workforce to uncover the true story of the well-known weapons of mass destruction. I imagine that the majority readers shall be amazed to find the true which means of 'weapons of mass destruction'. This info alone is well worth the value of the e book.

Tyler: All celebrities come from our time, apart from the Marx brothers. Why did you resolve to report it?

Fred: The Marx brothers signify the head of American insanity, loopy humor, and who might match the loopy insanity concepts of Rumsfeld and Cheney? I loved having the Marx brothers go wild within the chapter with Robin Williams at the moment as a result of these folks make extra sense of their satirical, unconventional feedback than any member of the Bush administration. Please additionally do not forget that Groucho Marx was president of Freedonia, and he's as a lot a political skilled as Rumsfeld and Cheney. Groucho as soon as mentioned: "Fish and politicians scent after three days." Phew, after 4 years the scent ...

Tyler: Fred, inform me a bit concerning the not well-known characters. To the troopers who fought within the warfare and even died, or relations just like the mom who spent weeks later at Bush's ranch in Texas. Her son was killed only for the president's refusal to speak to her?

Fred: Each day I learn blogs written by members of the armed forces and forces like Stars & Stripes and Military Occasions to remain updated on how they really feel. I got here throughout some issues that had been written by moms of troopers who died and their views taken in Chapter 14. one in all them was very pro-Bush. The story of Pat Tillman has additionally influenced me enormously. In researching this high-quality younger man, I found that he was an mental who learn enormously and was very patriotic. I attempted to convey his emotions and that of his relations, who're livid with how Pat's demise was used for political functions. I'm fairly proud that the report within the e book agrees remarkably with what's now being revealed to the American media - that George Bush has narrated the actual story of Normal McChrystal of Pat's demise and ignored the reality to rage and to fire up hatred. I might by no means lie in good conscience concerning the emotions of relations or deceased.

Tyler: Fred, how did you provide you with the thought for this e book?

Fred: Which may be a little bit of corn, however the demise of our candy younger women and men has been inflicting me nice ache. I've served within the army and have been working to assist veterans in order that they're near my coronary heart. Someday I went over the losses of the day once I heard the phrases in my head: "The satan himself couldn't trigger extra chaos and demise than what is occurring in Iraq at the moment." Inside a second I had the thought for the e book.

Tyler: Fred, inform me a bit about your personal army service. Has the army modified for good or dangerous since your service?

Fred: I rejected the draft of a deferral in 1951 and joined the US Military in the course of the Korean Warfare. I went by means of 4 months of fundamental coaching after which my unit obtained orders for Korea - to Heartbreak Ridge. A number of loopy errors confused my orders and I went to Europe. A few of my pricey associates had been killed on these hills in Korea. My choice to grow to be a instructor died. I needed to do one thing in life to forestall warfare. In these days, everybody, wealthy and poor, educated at school and people who had by no means completed main college. Not like the Second World Warfare, the Korean Warfare was as unpopular because the warfare in Iraq. Identical to at the moment, reservists and Nationwide Guard troops had been known as initially of the warfare. However males who had been drafted rapidly changed them. Everyone who was on the entrance put in 18 months after which went house with out returning to Korea. After Normal Eisenhower was elected President, he instantly resumed negotiations and organized a truce in order that our preventing males might come house. We had been lucky sufficient to have Harry Truman and Dwight Eisenhower as presidents, two males who revered the Structure and had been prepared to cut price to finish the combat. After all, each males had served within the army and understood the which means of demise, one thing that George Bush was unfamiliar with. I usually wished we had a Dwight Eisenhower as President - he was a Republican, however a person who liked and liked the Structure.

Tyler: Fred, why did you select God for the trial of Rumsfeld and Cheney and never God?

Fred: The satan has all the time represented chaos, dysfunction, ache and torture. Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush are the very best examples of those human qualities. If hell is down there, that is the place for many who violate our fundamental human values. Anyway, I didn't wish to disturb God, who cares for many who have love and pleasure of their hearts.

Tyler: You additionally settle for a number of late Presidents as a part of the trial. Would you inform us which of them and why you selected them? What sort of legitimacy do the presidents add to the negotiation?

Fred: I've learn extensively on the lifetime of Abraham Lincoln. I'm usually ailing as a result of President Bush doesn't wish to honor the deceased. Lincoln continuously visited sick troopers and took part in lots of funerals. He additionally invited relations of the deceased to see him within the White Home. George Bush will not be Lincoln. Invoice Clinton was remarkably calm when he responded to expenses that he was by some means chargeable for Al Qaeda or 9/11. I needed to offer him a possibility to refute these lies and confront Don and Dick straight with their tragic errors. Harry Truman is one in all my favourite presidents. He all the time mentioned it because it was and by no means hacked phrases. He was an autodidact who liked and adored his beloved situation, and I do know he turns in his grave, as Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Bush did with this doc.

Tyler: For what crimes or injustices are Rumsfeld and Cheney indicted within the e book?

Fred: You intentionally lied concerning the causes of warfare - the well-known weapons of mass destruction. Please learn my chapter by which a regulation and order unit lastly reveals its secret. These males have violated the constitutional ensures in opposition to honest trials, they've rejected the Geneva Conference, which each and every member of the army should know to assist the espionage of the typical American citizen, and so they should be chargeable for the deaths of over 3,600 People take over .

Tyler: Do you're feeling that the American system has failed that these two politicians weren't punished for his or her actions?

Fred: I feel the American Structure is the most important political doc in human historical past. I imagine within the American political system. Generally we transfer People slowly, however our system all the time works ultimately. I'm an everlasting optimist with regards to the American folks.

In some way the American folks ultimately discover out phonies and charlatans and quacks. Our system has not failed as a result of books like mine and others alert our nation to the insanity of those that run our authorities.

Tyler: What response has the e book obtained to date?

Fred: As I mentioned, I'm the everlasting optimist. I've obtained numerous reward and compliments to date and obtained wonderful critiques. Though the celebrity was gradual and reserved after simply over a month, I imagine that the e book will find yourself having fun with an enormous sale.

Tyler: Did you will have damaging solutions? When Michael Moore's movie "Fahrenheit 911" got here out, many theaters refused to indicate it. He claimed that it will be unpatriotic if our troops fought, however it appears the warfare has been super within the three years since. How would you react to folks accusing you of being unpatriotic, or was not that an issue?

Fred: Some folks assume I'm unpatriotic as a result of I attacked the President throughout wartime. They argue that we must always keep united when troopers die. Through the Second World Warfare and the Korean Warfare we had elections, the Republicans mentioned horrible issues about Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman, however our nation survived. I discover it ironic that the Republicans had been vicious of their assaults on Presidents Roosevelt and Truman, however now we're saying we must always not assault the president. After all he's a Republican at the moment. The core of patriotism is to combat for religion. After I joined the US Military, I made a solemn oath to defend and uphold the Structure. It was made clear that if a President violated this doc, our first obligation was the Structure and never the President. If I can't assault and criticize a President who violates the Structure, then I'm in my duty as a citizen.

Saddam Hussein by no means attacked this nation. Our president lied to the American folks concerning the causes for a warfare. I totally supported our assaults in Afghanistan in opposition to those that initiated the 9/11 assaults. I agree with the view of the brand new English Prime Minister Gordon Brown, who now argues that terrorism is greatest dealt with by the police. You can't wage a warfare in opposition to an abstraction - terrorism. In America, our regulation enforcement workers will greatest cope with terrorism.

I've to admit some disgust when those that have by no means fought for his or her nation assault the patriotism of those that served - what the Republicans did to John Kerry was unforgivable. I don't doubt the patriotism or loyalty of an American. Such phrases are usually not a part of the American lifestyle.

Tyler: Fred, I discussed earlier that you just additionally wrote "George Bush on the planet of Xul". Would you inform us one thing about this e book? I assume that additionally it is a satire of the Bush administration. Why did you're feeling the necessity to write this second e book "Don Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney in Hell"?

Fred: I'm a science fiction addict, so writing science fiction is a part of my dream. Someday once I was studying a sci-fi novel, the thought got here to thoughts: "What would occur if extraterrestrials got here in touch with George Bush, they'd go loopy and attempt to perceive his ideas." The e book is about extraterrestrials from the planet Xul who convey Bush to their planet after which convey alongside lots of people from Earth who will help decode how his thoughts works. Oh, there are numerous enterprise folks, writers, politicians, actors, comedians and so forth. I loved that Whoopie Goldberg gave the Xulians their model of Bush's ideas or how troopers preventing in Iraq see him and Cindy Sheehan lastly will get a shot at Bush. There's even a Seinfeld episode the place Kramer tells the Xulians how the warfare in Iraq will be ended. On the conclusion of the e book, Bush assaults the universe. Truthfully, I'm usually confused as to how his thoughts works. Lately, he spoke out in opposition to a brand new regulation that would offer medical care to youngsters, as this was step one on the street to socialism. Or in opposition to the Congress's suggestion to hold out a 3.5% wage improve for troopers for "extreme causes". He sees issues in his inimitable approach, and I believed perhaps aliens might determine it out. I can't

Tyler: Do you will have plans for future satire about American politics? If the Democrats are elected to workplace subsequent 12 months, do you assume you'd satirize them, whatever the events?

Fred: As a satirist, there could be little question that Giuliani or Ron Paul could be chosen. The truth is, I'm at present taking part in the title "The Seven Faces of Rudy G." Hillary could be enjoyable as a result of she's so severe and a bit pompous, however Barack Obama is hard due to his contemporary, younger face. I can by no means inform if it's Ron Paul or Paul Ron. I'd be fighting John McCain as a result of the person suffered a lot and was in nice ache. It will be merciless to observe him. Rudy jogs my memory of the evil stepmother in Snow White, who all the time asks the mirror, "Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the fairest of all of them." In the event you imagine in satire, nobody is free.

Tyler: Fred, thanks for being with me at the moment. Let our readers know the place to seek out extra info on Don Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney in Hell.

Fred: There are at present three strategies. You'll be able to go to, order it out of your native Border bookstore, or you should buy a replica straight from my political weblog the place I pay the transport and personally signal each single copy despatched out.

Tyler: Thanks, Fred. I'm certain the e book shall be very talked-about with readers. I hope you will have a bestseller in your palms.

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